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Gay debate 'no hot topic'

26 Aug, 2011 07:32 AM
SUSSAN Ley says the lack of clarity for children of gay relationships would see her vote against same-sex marriage if it came to a conscience vote for MPs.

But the member for Farrer says the issue, which has been debated by politicians in Canberra following the introduction of a motion by Greens MP Adam Bandt, is not a hot issue for Farrer which extends from Albury to Broken Hill.

“I’ve had about 500 calls, comments or letters on the issue, the majority in the form of a standard letter from groups either side of the debate,” Mrs Ley said.

“To this point just over 80 per cent are indicating they are against legalising same-sex marriage.

“Most of the surveys conducted by my fellow MPs have attracted only a small response from constituents and I’ve got to say, here in Farrer, it certainly isn’t the hot button issue some in Canberra are making out.

“There is no vote proposed right now but if there was, the conscience of the majority in this electorate is against same-sex marriage.

“My personal view is similar at this time but primarily because I think the legal and moral issues for any children arising from such a union are yet to be fully canvassed.”

The member for Indi, Sophie Mirabella, criticised Mr Bandt’s approach to the debate over gay marriage.

“The motion that was put forward by the Greens member Adam Bandt was a motion that asked MPs to survey the views of their constituents,” Mrs Mirabella said.

“This is what I am paid to do every day. I don’t need to be told by the Greens how to do my job.”

Mrs Mirabella said her stance on the issue was clear.

“I have and will continue to support legislative reform that gives same-sex couples equal property rights,” Mrs Mirabella said.

“The debate about the institution of marriage in Australia gives rise to profound differences of opinion.

“I believe that the majority of the North East community views the institution of marriage as it is currently defined by the Marriage Act, that is, ‘the union of man and a woman, to the exclusion of all others, voluntarily entered into for life’.”

About 30 federal MPs reported the results of community surveys to Parliament on Wednesday, reflecting both fierce opposition and passionate support for changing the Marriage Act to accommodate couples of the same sex.

Local surveys found just 2 per cent of respondents were in favour of same-sex marriage in parts of Queensland, but in the Greens-held electorate of Melbourne more than 90 per cent of respondents supported changing the Marriage Act to recognise same-sex couples.

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The survey is not scientific, not open to review, and is relying on a politicians never telling a lie. I will believe elephants fly backwards before I believe Sophie Mirabella and Susan Ley on this.
Posted by Dave, 26/08/2011 8:47:38 AM, on The Border Mail
In New York over 700 Church leaders supported Same-Sex Marriage.

Polls show millions of Christians in Australia support Same-Sex Marriage, as good leaders are comming out just as they did to stop the White Australia Policy.

Nobel Peace Prize winner Archbishop Desmond Tutu said.

“To penalize someone because of their sexual orientation is like what used to happen to us; to be penalized for something which we could do nothing (about) — our ethnicity, our race. I would find it quite unacceptable to condemn, persecute a minority that has already been persecuted.”

Posted by Brian, 26/08/2011 8:53:07 AM, on The Border Mail
Get over it...

It is not as if "Gay" is ever going to go away...

Let them get Married if they want to...

The Government will make money from Gay Marriage and Divorce Fees ~ just the same as it does from Heterosexuals...


Posted by SyBelle, 26/08/2011 9:04:02 AM, on The Border Mail
The Bible is revealing. The story of Sodom is about rape, not being polite to strangers. The vast majority of scholars, even Catholic Scholars, agree it is nothing to do with a judgement about being gay or not. Same-Sex Marriages happened around Jesus and he never said a word against it. In Leviticus, if you read it without the chapters, that were only added later, it is refering to prostitution in a temple. Again this is not a judgement on same sex couples. The word homosexual was only invented in teh 1850's. So many people support equality before the law, and so does the Bible.
Posted by Samantha, 26/08/2011 9:09:26 AM, on The Border Mail
Dear Sophie and Sussan,

Please stop pandering to the lowest common denominator of Australian politics.

Everyone has the right to be married, and laws should be abolished that deny that right.

You're supposed to be voices of reason and measured debate in parliament, not a constant voice of the conservative right.

Posted by Brian, 26/08/2011 9:10:00 AM, on The Border Mail
I've never seen any member, Sussan, Sophie or Greg, take part in the local GBLT community. If they really think that, why don't they head down to one of the bars that hosts a gay night and get a bit of a better perspective there?
Posted by Bonskit, 26/08/2011 9:12:50 AM, on The Border Mail
Polls show a majority of Liberal Voters support extending the protection of marriage to Same-Sex couples, and 1084 pieces of legislation are referenced by the Marriage Act. Civil Rights are not defined by your political party, but your humanity. To object to Marriage, goes against a fundamental value of the Liberal Party – which we strongly object to the Nanny State.

I am not in favour of the Nanny State, and would like Susan and Sophie to leave their Christian fundamentalism and return to mainstream Liberal Party values, that support the Civil Marriage of gay couples.


Posted by Tim Bull, 26/08/2011 9:44:17 AM, on The Border Mail
Now just hang on, Sophie Mirabella and Sussan Ley are asking me not to support Equality under the law for gay couples, because they are gay, but I am being asked to believe a talking snake married Adam and Eve?

The first law against Same-Sex Marriage was in AD 349, and the last law against Same-Sex Marriage was in 2004 by the government of Sophie Mirabella and Sussan Ley, when they changed the Marriage Act to exclude gay couples who were married overseas and living in Australia.

Give me a break, these people are all over the place on the truth.

Posted by Linda, 26/08/2011 9:49:34 AM, on The Border Mail
Lol GBLT...sounds like a sandwich with beef in the middle.
Posted by Schloder, 26/08/2011 9:53:28 AM, on The Border Mail
Sussan what about the hundreds of children abused and neglected by hetrosexual parents? same sex couples arrange to have children without marriage but would like demonstrate their commitment to each other and to ther children?

Shake off your shacklesand show you cae for all your constituents

Posted by Audray, 26/08/2011 10:23:40 AM, on The Border Mail
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